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 Monday April 16, 2012 18:59 by imcvol
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Given Bristol's media lanscape, dominated as it is by organisations with little time for unions - this is a story you're unlikley to read in the evening post! 
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Jump To Comment: 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1Sorry. Don't come here often so need to check a couple of things:
Firstly, accepting that to lose one's employment is a pretty devastating experience, do I now have to conclude that any job loss is a Bad Thing regardless of any positive knock on effects?
Is it fair to assume that we should still be coal-mining? Lots of people protested against closure of the coal mines (just as lots of people died and caught life-threatening illnesses in them).
Is it also fair to assume that profit and expenditure should remain at a constant for time immemorial? People clearly aren't fans of anything that involves cutting, and it would appear that companies that make lots of money (regardless of how many people they employ) are also generally a Bad Thing?
Ergo: I think I'm on safe ground saying that all change is bad, yeah? We don't like development of any kind (especially of life-saving medicine because of those nasty pharma companies). Though, having said that, we do kind of like the internet because it gives us a little space to have a rant, but we don't like the effect of the internet because it means that some sub-eds lose their jobs at the local rags. (Whoever quoted Northcliffe's profits as an argument against the cuts really does need to have a careful look at themselves - if every company waited until it was making a loss to respond to the business environment then you'd have to protest about job losses every day, everywhere.)
Is profit inherently bad? Is capitalism inherently bad? Is socialism inherently good? Can anarchism be inherently anything? Bottom line, I've met caring capitalists who have done more for their fellow man than anyone I've met. And I've met some real knobby capitalists whose views make me sick to my stomach. The same goes for socialists. Anarchists are an exception, I've met many self-professed anarchists who seem lovely and nice but in reality, theirs is a self-attributed label of convenience - they can't fully live out the ideology. I've also met some genuine anarchists who have to a man (and woman) been horrifically unpleasant peolple, almost psychopathic in their pursuit of their beliefs regardless of the impact it may have on their fellow man.
Anyway. There's my little rant over. God bless the internet!
agree with what namer says, when it comes to political stuff:
"But to those who keep their jobs at the BEP, don't talk to them or give them quotes. Be it their fault or the fault of their editors, but your words will be used agaisnt you (or simply not used at all). Either way, it simply legitimises the nasty excuse for a paper it has become."
Anyways, it seems like they use Bindymedia as a source, so if you put what you want to say up here, they can lift it from that.
Agree with Boyd, every word. Not all of us lot are slagging you off and turning our backs. What do you feel needs to be done now NUJ lot?
Ian Onions, Mike Norton
The rest have my sympathy.
But to those who keep their jobs at the BEP, don't talk to them or give them quotes. Be it their fault or the fault of their editors, but your words will be used agaisnt you (or simply not used at all). Either way, it simply legitimises the nasty excuse for a paper it has become.
Judging by the p*ss-poor style of comment writing on here, it seems like we've been joined by the Cream of the Printers Devil! (or was it the Stag & Hounds?)
Joking aside, all workers eat sh*t and I'm sure the EP staff have a bigger bowl than many. Some reporters are ideologically vindictive and nasty, and we should remember them as individuals: collective punishment is the weapon of our enemies (whole families sanctioned if a child goes truant, attacking protesting crowds indiscriminately, labelling a type of belief as 'dangerous', making millions of people "Illegal"), and i don't think we should be doing it.
Most people at the EP write about flower shows, pensioners who have been scammed, and the Mayor stroking a donkey's tail. Sometimes they write a balanced story, and it's cut to shreds, or they write a biased story when they know it will be cut to shreds otherwise. Those people have the same pointless jobs as i have had most of my life, and i find it hard to hate them. As for the ones that choose to actively suck satan's cock, they should be named and shamed as individuals, and treated with the same disgust as the Northcliffes themselves.
Once again its not about the morailty, karma potential (or not of the situation). U lot are assuming these workers are no more than their job, that they are defined by it and are too stupid to understand the contradictions of what they do.
Its about whether supporting these workers in their struggle will build confidence and networks of solidarity in the here and now which will actually help build the possibilty of making a world where u don't have to 'escape' to enjoy freedom over what you do
Or u can turn your back, slag em off and bask in the glory of anoher missed opportunity to show we are capable of connecting with those outside the anarchist bubble.
Ferne Park, Wiltshire, just East of Shaftsbury & South of the A30
Nearest village, Berwick St. John
http://maps.google.com/maps?client=opera&q=ferne+park&o...&z=16
Ferne House - New mansion for debauched Daily Mail owner Lord Rothermere
From:
Monday, 30 October 2006 - By The Grey Cardigan
A Palladian mansion designed by Quinlan Terry has appeared Tardis-like in the middle of the Dorset countryside. Yet, to the best of my knowledge, the planning and construction of Ferne House has never registered on the radar of the local press, despite its grand scale and greenbelt position.
Well, not in the local Northcliffe press anyway, for this is the country abode of Lord Rothermere, his wife Claudia and their four children. (There is a fifth, to whom we shall return shortly.)
I don't know if any order ever emanated from Derry Street forbidding the reporting of this very modern mansion, but I do know that local editors had it firmly in their psyche that it was a project that was never to be referred to in print. Like a wartime military base on an Ordnance Survey map, it just didn't exist.
But now it does, splashed across 12 pages of November's Vanity Fair magazine. We have pictures of Jonathan and his wife, pictures of their children, pictures of the garden, pictures of the office - altogether a curious act for a man who is painfully shy. Even stranger is writer Kate Reardon's blasé reference to the fifth Rothermere offspring, an 18-year-old son from a dalliance with a New Zealand nanny. Given that any mention of this youthful mishap has previously caused the outbreak of quite vicious newspaper wars, it's appearance here is unusual to say the least.
The building of a modern Classical 'masterpiece'
Posted on May 8, 2010 - Ferne House, Wiltshire (Image: Q&F Terry, Architects)
http://countryhouses.wordpress.com/2010/05/08/ferne-par...iece/
The English country house is considered our greatest contribution to the field of architecture – the unified vision of house and landscape combined with fine interiors, superb furnishings and exceptional art collections. Yet in the 20th-century, it seemed that after Lutyens we largely lost our ability to excel in their creation – the new country houses seemed shadows of our earlier confidence, lacking the grand flair, and certainly the detailing, which had so defined the Georgian Classical house. This was partially due to financial circumstances but also due to the influence of modernism which sought to re-interpret the country house in a new language – and it often didn’t translate well.
Ferne Park is a modest sized country house constructed in the English Palladian tradition, inspired by Came House near Dorchester. The entrance front has a central giant composite order and pediment; the garden front on the south side also has a central pediment but with a smaller Ionic doorcase. The front door leads into a large square hall with freestanding Doric columns. The house stands in a central position in a park, its four symmetrical elevations visible from all sides. It is built in Portland and Chilmark stone. It won the Georgian Group award for the Best Modern Classical House 2003.
Viscount Rothermere's Ferne House pile
Yeah, I tend to agree with the general attitude currently displayed regarding this subject.
Workers losing their jobs is obviously shit, but a bunch of right-wing muckrakers getting made redundant, well...fuck em.
Who knows maybe they'll end up having to squat, just like those 'work-shy, junkie, crustie, lefty, 'illegal' migrant, traveller, anarchist, blah, blah, blah...' that their so fond of slagging off?
Cosmic justice?
http://www.bristol.indymedia.org.uk/article/703534?regi...=true
Well with logic like yours no doubt you would have been saying "I understand and have sympathy with workers but those bloody printers at wapping they are just average consumers and can piss off! "
The kind of folk that work for the likes of the Evening Post are NOT journalists, and the same must be said about the vast majority of NUJ members.
They perform no useful social service, they work willingly for their capitalist employers, and they do it for money, end of story.
Very average 'workers / taxpayers / consumers' is the best that can be said of them these latter days I'm afraid.
Dear Emma. When turning Godwin into a past tense, there is no need to add an extra "O" in the first sylable of the word - that is what I was refering to.
Yes, you are quite right, the concept of Godwin's Law is indeed now a meme - it was the intention of Mike Godwin to make it so.
It's true you didn't say that I'd lost the argument by mentioning the Nazis, but once again, you make make the mistake of saying that I fell foul of Godwin's LAW. As Mike himself pointed out, though formulated as a law, it isn't one. It is simply a memetic device designed to encourage people to THINK. By these lights, one can not fall foul of it.
I am very familiar with the holocaust as you call it - I prefer the term Shoah. You see, most of my father's family died at Bergen Belsen, while several people on my mother's side of the family died at Auschwitz. My father came to this country as a refugee. Yes, that's right, I'm Jewish. As my late father lived in Germany for the 2 decades before the outbreak of WWII, and happened to speak about how the circumstances arose in the first place on an almost daily basis, I am also pretty familiar with the events within Germany before the outbreak of hostilities.
Now, you may feel that the Bristol Evening Post are simply a local paper - they are a lot more than that. Firstly, they are owned by Northcliffe Media group - you should be aware of them. Secondly, the reactionary coverage that I have seen emanate from the pages of the BEP over the last 25 or so years does not make me feel any symapthy at all towards those who originally penned it. Now, back to the Shoah - where did it begin? Was it all simply the idea of one nasty man? Or did it begin from a much wider disregard for the human rights of jews, gays, gypsies and other "undesirables"? I would suggest the latter - and that is where local media comes in.
I suggest you look very closely at the direction of travel in this country now. Women's abortion rights are under threat, travellers are under threat, there is certainly far less tolerance around than there was a few short years ago. Not surprising really, when money gets tight, people find somebody to blame, but then, when it comes to spreading a little intollerance, BEP / Northcliffe Group has never been slow off the mark. That is why I feel it reasonnable to use such an analogy.
Dear Splutter.
Sorry about the wrong name. But...
2nd I was turning Godwin into a past tense verb, hence the addition of 'ed' so Goodwin-ed.
3rd It a meme now too. It was an observation not opinion.
4th I didn't say you'd lost the discussion I said you'd fallen foul of the law by using an Nazi analogy. Which you have. Other readers can decide if you've jumped the shark.
Now Splutter, go and find out what "the holocaust" was, and think about the implications of comparing the running of a death camp with writing for a local paper.
Structural adjustments are to be made to the court bailiff services here in Bristol. The number of bailiffs is to be cut by 75%.
Bristol squatters will be holding a demonstration in support of bailiffs outside the courts today. Those attending will be asked to beat themselves up in solidarity with the bailiffs.
Afterwards, due to cuts to the Avon & Somerset Constabulary, protestors will be asked to detain themselves, and finally due to NHS cuts, will forcibly medicate themselves before locking themselves in a cupboard until authorised to release themselves by the ECHR in about 7 years time.
The whole debacle will be honestly and truthfully reported by upstanding journalists from the Bristol Evening Post.
In further developements also reported by BEP, pigs were seen flying over the Temple Meads and Old Market areas of Bristol. One winged porcine beast was seen by several bystanders to take a large dump on the big black glass building near Gardiner Haskins - I wonder what that building could be?
Good luck with that Socialism thing.
well, that didn't take much for the some to reveal they are also reactionary
"overworked , understaffed local journalists unable to take the leap from regurgitating press releases to writing insightful articles in support of riots, and tactical property damage against their own office - SHOCK HORROR!!"
So do these sackings, and making those left freelance, and consolidating power ever more in the hands of fewer (and richer) media barons - is this likely to help local press rediscover investigative journalism?
It's good you said 'I understand sympathy for the workers and all that' as it showed how little solidarity you have for those of us, probably 99.9% of us, who end up doing jobs that are not what we imagined we would be doing, but currently have little other option. Good luck in finding common cause with others to build the revolution, good luck with the propaganda of the deed with no base to build on, good luck with rootless angry brigade tactics with no links to working class people
Dear Emma.
Firstly, I am Splutter, my post is entitled YOMANK.
Secondly, it's Godwin, not Goodwine.
Thirdly, it's not a law, merely the opinion of one American.
Fourthly, contrary to popular misconception, Godwins law doesn't mean that a person who uses any kind of Nazi analogy loses the argument. Mike Godwin himself states that "Although deliberately framed as if it were a law of nature or of mathematics, its purpose has always been rhetorical and pedagogical: I wanted folks who glibly compared someone else to Hitler or to Nazis to think a bit harder about the Holocaust".
Now Emma, go and find out what "memetics" is, and think about the implications.
YOMANK - you've Goodwined this discussion.
No solidarity with this bunch of reactionaries who were denouncing the smashing of the Evening Post during the August riots and baying for the imprisonment of Badger. Chickens come home to roost - LOL - Trade union Mafia - Fuck OFF!
Ye gods. Would you have protested at the laying off of concentration camp guards? I mean I understand the idea of sympathy for the workers and all that, but these are Evening Post journalists we are talking about.
Remember all those horrible articles you complained about in the EP? Well, these are the people who penned 'em.
The most recently filed accounts for Bristol News & Media (mainly Evening Post & Western Daily Press) show operating profit of £1.5million in 2009-10 on turnover of £25.5m.
In the financial year 2010-11 Northcliffe Media returned profits of £17m
Announced Nov 2011